2026 - October to December
October 2026
2 - On their FB, FIF announce that Riverside will hold an encore screening of the two recovered episodes of The Daleks' Master Plan plus "Day of Armageddon" on 31 October 2026.
In attendance will be Toby Hadoke, Sue Malden and John Franklin. The official link is here.
In response to a comment about more Doctor Who being found, FIF reply that "there's always hope".
3 - Prior to the Riverside screening of The Underwater Menace and The Faceless Ones, one of the hosts Gavin Rymill posts that today's screening will feature the answer to an unsolved question posed in The Doctor Who Missing Episodes Podcast.
At 1pm UK time, the screening of the two existing episodes of both The Underwater Menace and The Faceless Ones takes place at Riverside Studios. No special reveals occur (Ed:- I later discovered that the "unsolved question" related to some overdubbed dialogue by Patrick Troughton in the former story).
4 - On their FB, Fantom Events post an intriguing reel, with still photos from missing Doctor Who stories and the captions "Withdrawn", "Deaccessioned", "Junked".
The reel's caption is "Coming soon...". The same is posted on their X.
Member The Firemaker on GB gives the stories the photos are from as being:
The Evil of the Daleks
Marco Polo
The Faceless Ones
The Tenth Planet
The Abominable Snowmen
Galaxy 4
The Daleks' Master Plan
The Crusade
The Moonbase
The Massacre
The Underwater Menace
The Ice Warriors
The Celestial Toymaker
The Wheel in Space
The Power of the Daleks
(Ed:- With thanks to hayleyjone86 on Gallifrey Base.)
5 - On GB, member absinthe_boy reports that FIF have stated they will not announce any other Doctor Who recoveries at their upcoming Riverside event on the 31st of this month.
6 - Fantom Events announce on their FB that the event their reel relates to (Ed:- see 4 October 2026) is "Missing Who", an event celebrating the recovery of missing episodes of Doctor Who. Peter Purves is slated to attend.
The event takes place on 24 April 2027.
7 - Fantom Events posts that Carole Ann Ford has also been booked to attend Missing Who.
8 - On their FB, FIF announce the person who will conduct the first phase of their London-based trial: Rebecca O'Connor Thompson will be cataloguing the collection belonging to the late Keith Wilton (Ed:- as surmised on this blog; see 30 September 2026).
Meanwhile on their FB, Fantom Events announce that John Franklin of FIF will be a guest at "Missing Who" in April next year.
10 - On their FB, Fantom Events announce that Sue Malden of FIF will be a guest at "Missing Who".
Meanwhile on their X, Fantom also announce Sally Faulkner - Isobel Watkins from The Invasion - as a guest at Pandorica 2026, being held on 1 November this year.
12 - On their FB, Fantom announce that Frazer Hines will be a guest at "Missing Who".
Meanwhile on their FB, FIF post a query to their followers as to what missing artefacts should be prioritised, and also in some of their comments hint at a shift in their strategy away from "at-risk" collections towards identifying collections with missing material.
13 - On their FB, Fantom post that Wendy Padbury will join the guest list for "Missing Who".
14 - On their X, FIF announce they will be holding a special live Q&A webinar for Director-tier Patreons. The event takes place on Monday, 19 October 2026 at 7:30pm GMT.
15 - A new forum - Planet Telos - goes live to replace the (sadly) defunct Planet Mondas Forum.
16 - And on Planet Telos - getting the new forum off to a flying start - member georgeagdgdgwngo posts some screen grabs of messages he was sent "years ago" - that The Tenth Planet:4 and - he clarifies - The Daleks' Master Plan:4 ("The Traitors") are known to be in a private collection, but the person concerned "won't hand them back".
These are the two episodes "supposedly" lost by Blue Peter. The cans are in the possession of "an ex-BBC employee", whose wife contacted the old Restoration Team about them.
Meanwhile, the Crime and Comedy Theater Company is putting a performance of 1965's The Crusade, starring Colin Baker, Nicola Bryant, Carole Ann Ford and Peter Purves.
The performance forms part of Happy Who Year, a convention being held in January 2027. The official link for the play is here.
17 - On Planet Telos, member georgeagdgdgwngo reports that "extras" for The Myth Makers and The Smugglers have been filmed, and that Frazer Hines and Wendy Padbury have filmed something together.
Forum owner Bowtiesarecool says these may be for releases in 2027/28.
Meanwhile, on Digital Spy Forums, member Rooks says that in a 2-part U&Gold documentary dealing with recently discovered, unbroadcast material from BBC comedy Only Fools and Horses, one of the people behind the finds mentioned "good news on the horizon" regarding missing Doctor Who.
It's unclear who made the finds, but in a clip on this webpage Richard Latto is seen.
(Ed:- the documentary is called "Only Fools and Horses: The Lost Archive". An article on the topic can be found here.)
18 - On the YT channel TalkTV, Richard Latto is interviewed about the Only Fools and Horses finds. (This is the actual source of the comment about Doctor Who, not the documentary.) At 10:52, Richard is asked about potential Doctor Who finds, he responds that he has "heard rumours", but all he can say is "watch this space".
19 - FIF hold their first Q&A webinar, giving the state of play on missing episodes in film collections.
On Planet Telos, member vikings reports that FIF state they still know of three separate collections that contain at least one episode.
Further points are reported on GB: member MoDo says that "several" means three, as in episodes known besides the two episodes of The Daleks' Master Plan. Member Flashpoint additionally states that of the three collections with these three missing episodes, one collector is sadly terminally ill, and when the time comes the family will contact FIF. The other two collectors fear reprisals (specifically, the effect on their pensions).
Member narich provides more information: the terminally-ill collector has the largest collection of the three, and negotiations with FIF are ongoing with the other two, due to their concerns about coming forward.
Finally, Steve Manfred reports that FIF's "pipeline" of incoming film is "overflowing", and the Doctor Who brand team are calling "weekly" for updates on finds.
20 - FIF release the first instalment of the Q&A webinar for their Patreon members. (The following three parts will be released daily this week.)
"The Culture of Film Collecting"
First, FIF state they we shouldn't underestimate not only the amount of film but of television “out there” (ie, both in collections and archives), especially considering the lack of archival policies of broadcasters as late as the 1980s.
FIF are expanding their operations by adding administration and cataloguing roles. They aim to constantly expand and are open to feedback and suggestions. The best way to support FIF is via their Patreon to help them continue their work.
21 - FIF release the second instalment of the Q&A webinar.
"The Process of Preservation"
FIF say there is no typical method for acquiring collections, as each collector and their circumstances are unique, from geographical location to their physical condition to the number of films in their collection.
In a couple of instances FIF have had to move quickly to acquire collections, including the one containing 6 episodes of Doctor Who, two of which were the two missing episodes of The Daleks’ Master Plan. The collection went to court because the executors of the estate predeceased the collector, and the entire estate had been left to a high street charity. The court upheld the will, and FIF negotiated directly with the charity and acquired the film collection.
In the case of the two Master Plan prints, the film itself had physically shrunk. The collector had never projected the films; if he had they would have been damaged due to the sprocket holes not aligning on the projector.
Research into cutting copies is ongoing and they’ve found a seam of interesting research, especially by way of former industry professionals (especially Simon Chambers and Robert Maynard). They have provided a lot of feedback on the two Master Plan episodes, advising they are the final iteration of cutting copies known as “answer copies”.
The BBC’s practice was to use one label type was put on all iterations of cutting copies.
FIF have two groups they deal with in the film community, active living film collectors and film collectors’ estates. FIF’s profile in the community as a neutral party is facilitating returns of missing material.
FIF estimate the number of active film collectors across the UK and Europe to be 2,000. Older collectors are less inclined to be “active", which highlights the importance of FIF’s role in contacting these “inactive” collectors.
John knows of a collection that holds “very important material” including “television episodes that everyone would like to see”. (Ed:- This sounds like the terminally-ill collector who as reported elsewhere holds at least one missing episode of Doctor Who.) The collector’s wife has assured John that she will contact him "when something happens".
Part of FIF’s role involves going into people’s homes and dealing directly with the bereaved, helping them work through their grieving. Regardless of length of time it takes, FIF supports the families and tries to preserve as much film as they can, respectfully and humanely.
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Meanwhile on their FB, FIF announce that they will hold another live Q&A in November for Director tier members. Further, the videos from this month's Q&A will be available on their YouTube channel "within a month".
And extraordinarily, on Reddit user The_JohnnyRay posts an extensive list of "up to 25 missing episodes" said to exist "in private hands":
Marco Polo (All seven missing episodes)
The Mythmakers (All four missing episodes)
The Daleks Masterplan (Episode four, eleven, twelve)
The Massacre Of St Bartholomew (Episode two)
The Tenth Planet (Episode four)
The Power Of The Daleks (Episode one, two)
The Highlanders (Episode two)
The Macra Terror (Episode one)
Fury From The Deep (Episode four)
The Web Of Fear (Episode three)
Space Pirates (Episode one, two, six)
(Ed:- "Space Pirates" episode two must be a typo, as it has always existed in the BBC archives.)
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22 - FIF release the third instalment of the Q&A webinar.
"Dealing with Copyright Holders"
The challenges FIF encounter when dealing with copyright holders are “many and various”. The physical medium of film has no relation to the IP rights and FIF’s first duty is to the copyright holder; however commercial networks in the UK such as ITV manifestly have no interest in their archival legacy. There’s no interest in preserving and showing historical programming as it’s costly and it isn‘t commercially viable for the network to show publicly.
If FIF finds missing TV that lots of people would want to see that was produced by the BBC, and FIF present this to BBC Archives and they would like to present this at FIF’s next event, if the rights holder ie, the writer decides they will charge a high fee for it to be screened the BBC won’t sanction it.
Independent broadcasters used intermediary companies to return screened material to the UK, and some of these “cut corners”; material wasn't always returned as requested. For instance, the recovery of Emergency Ward 10, one was so vinegar syndromed it couldn’t be identified as to which episode it was, and many episodes were missing from the batch that should have been returned and may have ended up in private collections.
Next was the answer to the question submitted by this blog's author, which was is there any update on the “several” collections known to have “several” missing episodes of Doctor Who?
John’s update: there’s no update in terms of acquiring missing material; John’s original statement did include the one known episode of The Daleks’ Master Plan, but John was aware of three other collections with three missing episodes of Doctor Who. One of these is that belonging to the terminally-ill collector. FIF continue not to be focused on individual episodes or television shows; they are preserving silent and feature films, documentaries and of course missing television.
Two collectors who are former industry professionals are concerned about losing their pensions, FIF is having ongoing dialogue with them about their entire collections, that comprise several thousand films. These collections are situated in different parts of the country. Their pipeline of collections and films is “overflowing”, which must be cleared before they can take the next items in. John believes there will be good news down the line in terms of preservation of material. FIF will continue to do what it does and treat collectors respectfully and humanely.
In response to has the Doctor Who community been a net positive or net negative to FIF’s mission? Justin Smith says overwhelmingly positive; FIF has this community to thank for a global awareness and support of FIF and its mission, particularly with the recovery of the two Master Plan episodes and the four public screenings. When two prominent film collectors were invited to a Doctor Who event they were overwhelmed by the support of Doctor Who fans for FIF’s cause. They are not on a treasure hunt, they aim to rescue at-risk film collections and Doctor Who fans have shown they understand this. New FIF staff member Laraine Porter has been impressed by the energy of this multi-generational fandom and its social media savvy.
The Riverside Studios event on 31 October is their event, with members of FIF in attendance.
FIF conduct triage when recovering and removing film from a site. The factors used in assessing the level of risk relating to each collection include whether the collector is recently deceased, and the circumstances of the family involved which are often as FIF describes it “distressed circumstances”, the condition of the actual films and the conditions in which they are stored. FIF have at times entered buildings in a state of physical collapse, and extreme care has had to be used for fear of actual physical injury. The family often also wish to sell the property and move on with their lives, and there is often a very tight timeframe to do this triage and remove the films (as little as two weeks). As a result, FIF will never be able to save every film or even film collection will be saved. John was recently offered a film collection in Penzance but there simply wasn’t enough time to get to the collection, perform the necessary triage and save it in time.
Finally, FIF is working as collaboratively as they can with the BFI but time and costs do not always allow this. FIF relies on institutes like the BFI to provide “clues” as to where material could be, there is a lot of detective work involved.
23 - FIF release the fourth instalment of the Q&A webinar.
"Future Plans and Ambitions"
FIF’s goals for the future include adding the to the history of
film, such as compiling an oral history of film collecting by way of
the knowledge and memories of collectors and industry professionals
(editors, film cutters). Also through acquiring technical knowledge, for
instance research into differing definitions of “cutting copies”.
Another goal of FIF
is to continue to encourage older collectors to catalogue their
collections, and add the list to their will as a codicil. This
cataloguing work however requires enormous resources and additional
personnel, as FIF now deal with thousands of films a week.
John mentions
clearing an upstairs loft in 42 degree heat.
John is contacted
every week by the Doctor Who brand team asking for news on finds.
John is cautious about saying more, that we now know as much as the
brand team does, and he says we will all find out at the same time
when there is something to say! (Ed:- John's coy demeanour at this point struck me as being highly
suggestive that they DO know something else that they are choosing
not to disclose at this time – which to be perfectly frank is
something I already suspected. Time will tell.)
FIF would also like
to show an extended run of the recovered episodes of popular and
influential series Emergency Ward 10, together with star
Annette Andre. The episodes feature a storyline in which Annette is
prominent.
FIF doesn’t
currently know of any similar organisations that do the kind of work
that FIF does. FIF have been contacted for advice in
setting up local equivalents, and John has been invited to the USA
and Australia to speak but John’s on the ground work in the UK
prevents this. John encourages anyone who has the energy,
determination and enthusiasm to start something themselves.
When deciding what
to save, FIF separate out any films that are in poor condition and
take them back to their storage facilities, where a decision is made
whether it can be salvaged.
24 - On their YT, FIF post a notification that the first part of their webinar Q&A will be available to view on YouTube on Thursday, 26 October at 9:30am UK time.
The other three instalments will follow daily at the same time.
In other news - Obverse Books post on their FB about the release of "Fabulous: A Missing Episodes Anthology", featuring short stories from various television series - including Doctor Who - that are missing episodes. The book will be released in November 2026, with all profits going to support the work of Film is Fabulous!.
25 - On the YT channel Who's Views, John Franklin is interviewed to give an update on missing episodes. (The interview runs from 36 to 58 minutes.)
John mentions he just took delivery of the collection of a late film collector, and the host says that FIF have taken in other collections during the week.
John reiterates about the "three collections" known to have missing episodes of Doctor Who, one of which is a "very large collection" amassed over a lifetime and belongs to a longtime friend of his. John says that if all runs to plan, the missing items will be returned to the BBC per FIF's procedures.
The two other collections belong to former BBC employees who are in their 80s; FIF is building relationships with them to try to resolve their concerns in coming forward.
28 - On GB, member Steve Manfred posts a handy analysis of the two episodes likely to be in the "fish fryer" collection (Ed:- i.e., the film collector who when Paul Vanezis had dealings with him "had bigger fish to fry" at the time and thus wasn't ready to talk about loaning his episodes to the BBC):
"OK, here we go. These are the clues we have from Paul Vanezis.
They are from two different Hartnell stories.
They are _not_ on the list of 23 stories (not all of which are currently missing) that Australia returned all at once in 1975.
They are also not Dalek episodes.
And one half-clue is that when he initially talked about them, Paul said that one was on the '75 returns list and one wasn't, then some time later he corrected himself to say both were not. It had been some time since he'd looked at the list, and confused one with being on it when it isn't. This leads me to think it's in a cluster of stories where the ones close to it in the story order are on it, and others aren't, leading to his mistake.
Those first clues limit the eligible stories to these six: Marco Polo, The Reign of Terror, The Crusade, The Massacre, The Celestial Toymaker, and The Savages.
The half-clue leads me to think the mistaken story is one of those last three, because the '75 returns list doesn't start until The Space Museum and has some season 3s in it."
30 - On Planet Telos, member The Space Pirate reports that although FIF have been releasing Patreon videos on their film cataloguing efforts, they also plan on a video series looking at their cataloguing of 16mm television episodes, being done by John Franklin.
May the month of October bring good updates not only for Doctor Who, but also for another show and for lost media.
ReplyDeleteI think something will happen between now and April
ReplyDeleteIf you look at the messaging from FIF in the run up to DMP,. it reads very similarly to now. Mentions of taking collections of former industry professionals. Working with R3store. I really feel that when FIF starts ramping up their messaging, they're trying to tell us something. I agree - it's between now and, well, soon :D
DeleteFurthermore, the FIF states that if this London-based initiative succeeds, it could acquire several large-scale collections located in the capital—collections that include items of cultural importance. I wonder what those culturally significant items might be? Let's wait and see, everyone; I’m rooting for the return of more Second Doctor episodes.
DeleteThe other thing that matches is how AWOL Tim Burrows is from his patreon. I can just feel in the ether he is working his bee hind off behind the scenes with FIF.
DeleteThe combination of these factors leads us to speculate that something is coming; I hope we aren't wrong—let's look forward to future updates.
DeleteThis comment by the OP now seems very prophetic, given what we now know about Missing Who in April next year!
DeleteWell well well - 2 Riverside screenings this month!
ReplyDeleteFIF reply that "there's always hope". well that sounds a bit better than EXPECT THE UNEXPECTED
ReplyDeleteso no missing dr who at this screening? BUT they are going to have another screening. sounds unusual
ReplyDeleteWell clearly nothing came of the UWM / Faceless Ones screening. I didn't have too much invested in that but all hopes are of course pinned on FIF and their intake of three to six collections in the coming weeks.
ReplyDeleteWe really couldn't expect much, but now that we know Film is Fabulous is handling truly massive collections—many containing items that even collectors can't identify—there is a chance for more recoveries; furthermore, Film is Fabulous has already stated there is hope that episodes might resurface in the future, which is a promising sign that we are making progress in recovering lost episodes.
Deleteyes pity nothing happened at the first screening. not sure what will happen now at this second screening. moral is not to get hopes up too much as the BBC once again will be the ones to announce it. it would ge great if something does happen at one of these screenings that beats them to it
ReplyDeleteDoes anyone know what happened to Planet Mondas forum?
ReplyDeleteI hear it's some technical issue at the back end. Sadly no time frame for its return at this stage
DeleteRegarding the Fantom Event video, what can we really expect? Any ideas?
ReplyDeleteWhat could the Fantom Facebook post mean?
ReplyDeleteYeah look re the Fantom post - mea culpa, full transparency that one is a cheeky inclusion on my part because it will probably end up just being one of their normal events. I've reported it here anyway because there's a certain intrigue factor and it technically qualifies as an ME related rumour. But I don't expect anything will come of it
ReplyDeletedon't get what the fantom events post is ment to be about. very confusing posting in riddles like that and even if there is missing episodes I highly doubt it will be all those stories UNLESS it is a lost clips reel and not full episodes
ReplyDeleteIt is confusing, I guess we will wait and see which is par for the course for us holding out for more missing episodes!
DeleteI've updated the July-September 2026 entry with the exact Anneke Wills quote from DWM re missing eps (see 19 September 2026)
ReplyDeleteHopefully, we’ll see a promising update or a recovery by the time of the Fantom event.
ReplyDeleteso the fantom event is about the recovery of missing episodes but without an actual recovery? why bother? there has already been events for the 2 DMP episodes.
ReplyDeleteIf they booked what's her name, that suggests that MARCO POPO has been found!!!
ReplyDeleteI've been burned lately so I'm not willing to get my hopes up to that level! But that would be the ideal outcome for me
DeleteMarco Popo?
DeleteThe esteemed gentleperson made a typo
Deleteyou would be lucky to get 1 episode of marco polo let alone the whole story. while it might be worth it to see peter and carol unless at least 1 episode is revealed it sounds disappointing otherwise. fans going there expecting to see a missing episode might well be disappointed.
ReplyDeleteThe event takes place on 24 April 2027. there is bound to be a returned missing episode by that time.
ReplyDeleteWell, let's wait and see; there's quite a bit of time before April arrives. Film is Fabulous is tirelessly cataloging the collections—they might find something and announce it at the event, or they might not find anything for the time being. All we can do is wait, folks.
ReplyDeleteUser comment deleted due to erm, event confusion :D haha easily done
ReplyDeletethe fantom event seems to be getting quite a few who actors. wonder if sally falkner and frazer hines attending could mean one or both of the invasion episodes have been found.
ReplyDeleteSally is going to Pandorica 2026 - but who knows, maybe we'll see she's been added to Missing Who at some stage
DeleteFor Missing Who we now have Frazer Hines, Wendy Padbury, Peter Purves, John Franklin....and perhaps strangely, Carole Ann Ford. Now correct me if I'm wrong but hasn't it been 40 odd years since we got anything of hers back....
ReplyDeleteThe last lost episode featuring Susan was recovered in 1984.
DeleteThe FIF posted a question to its followers asking which missing artifacts should be prioritized and, in some comments, hinted at a shift in strategy—moving away from a focus on "at-risk" collections to identifying collections with missing material. This could mean we are closer to seeing more episodes recovered in the near future; that is exciting.
ReplyDeleteYea this feels weirdly suspicious to me, not to quote Doctor Who itself but if I was assembling a “we found some missing Who and want to show you it” team, this is who I’d pick. However these events are quite common and like you said Carol Anne Ford has only Marco Polo and 2 eps of Reign of Terror missing in her run, so unless they found one of those AND Invasion it seems like it might just be one of these random panels they usually do. Still, that is a stacked cast that if I had discovered something i’d get those people together
ReplyDeleteExactly my thoughts, although Wendy P also has Space Pirates. But yeah - why invite Carole Ann and Wendy when nothing of theirs has come back for 40 odd years??
DeleteFor now, we can only speculate, and there is still a long way to go until April; let's keep our fingers crossed. Given that *Film is Fabulous* has shifted its focus, I don't think it was a coincidence that they asked their followers which media they would like to see recovered.
DeleteThe line up of Carole Ann, Peter, Frazer and Wendy is crazy. And with FIF's involvement also (John and Sue), you've got to wonder.
DeleteAll we need is Anneke and Maureen (O'Brien) and we have someone from every era of missing Who
Deletemoving away from a focus on "at-risk" collections to identifying collections with missing material. I find that a bit of a strange comment.what about at risk collections WITH missing material. that would have to be number 1 for them to get hold of especially if it has dr who in it. FIF obviously know dr who is top of the list for many people even if they themselves are not all dr who fans.
ReplyDeleteExactly, I see zero reason why they can't do both
DeleteAll we need is Anneke and Maureen (O'Brien) WELL I thought anneke is going to go this or at the very least been going on about missing episode leads in the DWM interview which has been mostly panned due to her having a go at frazer hines.
ReplyDeleteAnneke hasn't been announced for this specific event yet. Maybe now that Frazer is going, she won't be! Ouch!
Deletelooking at the list of stories. I notice MACRA TERROR, THE INVASION, AND SPACE PIRATES are NOT on it. so it is odd they are having sally falkner, frazer hines and wendy padbury or at the very least sally and wendy if no episodes from invasion and space pirates have been recovered. so it is not looking good for those 2 stories or macra terror.
ReplyDeleteWhat list?
DeleteThe list of stories featured in Fantom Events' reel, teasing the Missing Who event in April next year.
DeleteProbably drawing too long a bow to read anything into the stories not featured, imho.
The future of all these stories remains an unknown. For thirteen years, no episodes were recovered—until this year, when two episodes from a story deemed the least likely to ever be found were recovered, bringing the number of missing episodes down to 95. When it comes to lost episodes, nothing is ever certain. The team at "Film is Fabulous" is currently working with several large collections, and there is a possibility that more recoveries could occur in the near future. When asked about the likelihood of further episodes being recovered over the next two years, Paul Vanezis indicated that the prospects are promising. We must remain patient—after all, that is all we can do. Let us trust the "Film is Fabulous" team and their preservation efforts; they are well aware that *Doctor Who* sits at the top of the recovery wish list for most of their followers. They have consistently stated that if anything is found, everyone will be informed—though any official announcement will always come from the rights holder, the BBC. I believe we may see some promising updates by April.
ReplyDeleteDear readers - you probably already know that Planet Mondas forum is offline, and it's looking like it will probably stay that way. As such none of the links from previous blog entries to PMF will work, sadly.
ReplyDeleteA new forum has been set up for refugees from Planet Mondas - life imitating art! - and I've linked it at the top of the links list at top-right of page. Planet Telos is the new discussion board.
QUOTE: I believe we may see some promising updates by April. MANY are hoping we get something by November-December but if it does go on until april then so be it. it seems 99.9% certain something has been found and recovered obviously if nothing comes back fans will be gutted.the big question is how much more is going to come back
ReplyDeleteLet's see what FIF have to say during the Q&A on 19 October, UK and US time (20 October Australian)
Deletethe problem with the FIF Q&A is they most likely will be vague with replies. rumours of a hartnell dalek episode came out before the 2 masterplan finds and they denied it and then it turned out to be true and of course it was 2 eps and not 1. I guess if someone presses them hard for an answer they will just get peeved off because they are not dr who fans-so as you said wait and see.
ReplyDeleteThey've asked for questions to be submitted in advance, and I've posed a question seeking an update on the status of the "several" episodes known to be in "several" collections - which were known to be in addition to the two DMPs.
DeleteIt’s not that they aren’t fans of *Doctor Who*—that is completely untrue. They work with all kinds of recovered media and are well aware of the series' importance to many people; they simply don’t focus exclusively on specific recoveries. Following the recovery of the two episodes, they became quite popular within the fandom, which supports them and hopes they will find even more episodes. There is simply no need to constantly pressure them; they know that if they discover more lost media—especially *Doctor Who*—their profile will grow, more collectors might become open to the idea of cataloging their own collections, and further media could be recovered.
DeleteI hope they can provide an answer; after all, they are aware that the series is of great importance, and that recovering more episodes would help it gain greater recognition and more support.
Deletesome interesting info coming out. at least 1 more dr who episode and others that have missing dr who fear reprisals about their pensions? what an odd comment so the government is going weigh in on this? what so give back dr who episodes and loose their pension. just bizarre.
ReplyDeleteIt is great to learn that there have been some updates from the FIF, with three collections each containing at least one episode—that is truly exciting. Regarding the individual who is in the terminal stages of an illness, I hope he finds peace; even though we do not know his identity, we should be grateful to him—as well as to many others—for helping, in one way or another, to preserve episodes that were once considered lost. I also hope that the other two collectors might allow their items to be cataloged, with the assurance that their identities will never be made public. It is wonderful to know that the rights holders are actively seeking updates on a weekly basis. I believe that, even if we don’t get any specific news this year, we will at least see an announcement regarding an animated project. Let us continue to contribute to the FIF however we can and wait patiently; I hope they will be able to answer more questions in the future.
ReplyDeleteHear hear
Deleteis the FIF Q&A on youtube. wonder if they show it all or just parts of it.
ReplyDeleteIt was done only for Director tier patreons, so I'd say its highly unlikely it will be put on YouTube.
DeleteI've just seen that FIF will publish these videos to YouTube "within a month". This info added to the blog
Deletethe Doctor Who brand team ? who are they? some new form of the dr who restoration team
ReplyDeleteDoesn't every major TV/movie franchise have a brand team? As in, probably a few people in BBC Studios (which replaced Worldwide) responsible for keeping tabs on all things Who?
DeleteVery interesting to see what that episode in the third collection will be (the one with the unfortunately terminally ill collector)
ReplyDeleteThe updates are promising; the FIF team has yet to post the other videos, and I hope more important information will be shared. In the meantime, let’s continue to root for their success and expansion, so they can recover even more lost media and share it with everyone.
ReplyDeleteso there is three collections with either 1 missing dr who or each of the three collections has one which makes 3 episodes and add on the 2 paul venezies assuming they are not part of the 3 collections and that makes 5. so it is going to be either 3 or 5 dr who episodes.
ReplyDeleteYou're assuming one episode collection where it might be better to assume at least one per collection. As per the collector with the two missing DMP episodes, it was stated early on by FiF that he had one and then when they eventually were able to aquire his collection, he had two plus, another four that already existed in the archives. As has been noticed before, these things tend to travel around in pairs, so it's not inconceivable that there could be at least six in total in these three collections, maybe more. Time will tell on that one I'm sure!
ReplyDeleteThe Doctor Who fandom is not only multi-generational, but it also extends well beyond the United Kingdom and Europe; countries such as Canada, New Zealand, and Australia, among others, have many fans of the series. I am aware that even in Brazil—where the classic series was never broadcast, and the only media to arrive consisted of the Peter Cushing films, the 1996 movie, the modern series, and a few books—there is a great deal of appreciation for the franchise.
ReplyDeleteJohn certainly seemed to be dropping some hints; they have access to very valuable information. Even if they were to share it with the brand’s team, there’s a risk of a leak that could spoil any upcoming launches they might be planning. That said, I think we may have underestimated the number of episodes included in these collections. When episodes are recovered, they often surface in pairs—these collections could consist of episodes from the same story or from different ones. I suspect we might see an announcement by the time the April event rolls around—at least, that’s what I think.
ReplyDeleteI am thinking the same time horizon. Yes, it was quite a sudden change in demeanour, quite noticeable. Oh well, I guess that was his way of dropping a wee hint to encourage us Who tragics :D
DeleteJohn mentioned that the FIF team was surprised by the series' fandom. While it’s true that some individuals may act on impulse and make hasty decisions, they are in the minority; the vast majority of fans understand that the team’s work requires a great deal of patience, effort, and dedication—and that this dedication is now being rewarded. I suspect he might be eager to announce something but, for some reason, is not yet able to do so. They are well aware that with each successful restoration project, they gain more recognition, which opens up possibilities for future expansion.
DeleteNew intriguing info from Digital Spy forums added to 17 October - apparently a documentary about found material from Only Fools and Horses mentions "good news on the horizon" for missing Doctor Who!
ReplyDeleteis this documentary on youtube. luckily only fools and horses exists in full being a 1980s show.
ReplyDeleteI don't believe so no
DeleteQUOTE: Those first clues limit the eligible stories to these six: Marco Polo, The Reign of Terror, The Crusade, The Massacre, The Celestial Toymaker, and The Savages. it would probably be better if the 2 vanezies episodes were not reign of terror or crusades but it would be interesting to have more of the other stories. especially massacre and marco and savages as there is none.
ReplyDeleteThe prospect of having six Hartnells returned, though unlikely, is a nice one.
ReplyDeleteThe possibility that a complete story—like *The Smugglers*—might be found, however unlikely, gives me hope that something could be announced in the future.
ReplyDeleteall four episodes of the smugglers-they will be lucky to get one and in fact it would be better if there is four missing episodes that they are from different stories. not looking good for a missing troughton as they keep saying hartnell.
ReplyDeleteUntil there is an update from the FIF or an official announcement from the BBC regarding the recovery of lost episodes, we can only speculate and wait; I’m hoping they announce something on November 23rd—even if it turns out to be just an animation.
ReplyDeletethis list has been on youtube for some time-evil of the daleks 3, moonbase 1, smugglers 3, golden death, abandoned planet,wheel in space 4 and 5, space pirates 4,5,6. more than 1 episode of the same story I am skeptical about and space pirates 4,5,6 keeps getting repeated in lists and is also on the infamous britbox list. if any of these turn up then the list is true. if none of them turn up then the whole list is false.
ReplyDeletehttps://www.reddit.com/r/gallifrey/comments/1xahy9i/film_is_fabulous_missing_episodes_update/
ReplyDeletehttps://youtube.com/shorts/UdQu2MOhvKo?si=QmCtgG0MkkzubOqg
Wanted to send these to you. A nasty rumor in this thread about Web 3 being destroyed by Phil Morris (why not use part 1? Which was already in the archive) and a potential Season 5 collection set and that there might be a Wheel in Space animation with how the tease was “bringing all the pieces together”
Alternatively, maybe they FOUND more eps of Wheel in Space :P
Personally I can't believe anyone would go to that effort only to destroy a film.
Deleteanother big list appears on reddit
ReplyDeleteUp to twenty five missing episodes of Doctor Who are said to exist somewhere in private hands :
Marco Polo (All seven missing episodes) I say unlikely
The Mythmakers (All four missing episodes) I say unlikely
The Daleks Masterplan (Episode four, eleven, twelve)
The Massacre Of St Bartholomew (Episode two)
The Tenth Planet (Episode four)
The Power Of The Daleks (Episode one, two)
The Highlanders (Episode two)
The Macra Terror (Episode one)
Fury From The Deep (Episode four)
The Web Of Fear (Episode three)
Space Pirates (Episode one, two, six) NOT 4,5 and 6 for a change
MAKE OF THIS WHAT YOU WILL. the fact is no one really knows for sure.
Space Pirates 2 has never been missing
DeleteThanks, wow that was from 19 days ago.
DeleteI've found the link and added that info in, and split this blog entry into two.
are you saying that reddit list is 19 days old? if so it is still fairly recent.
DeleteIt is, yeah. You can hover your mouse over the timestamp of the post itself and see the exact date and time it was posted.
DeleteSpace Pirates 2 has never been missing. GOOD POINT maybe the reddit poster ment to type episode 4
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